Take Good Care: Season 5 Episode 11 – Rosa Gynecology: A Place Where You Can Thrive

Dr. Mironda Williams:
Welcome to Take Good Care podcast.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
An endeavor that grew out of our love for obstetrics and gynecology.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Our aim and mission is to serve as a source of vital information for women of all races, ages, and walks in life.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I am Dr. Mironda Williams.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I’m Dr. Deanna Guthrie.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And I’m Dr. Karen Greene.
Multiple speakers:
Welcome to our show.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Welcome to this extra special, phenomenal episode of Take Good Care podcast. I’m Dr. Mironda Williams.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I’m Dr. Deanna Guthrie.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And I am Dr. Karen Greene.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Because I’m so excited to get started before I do anything else, for those who are following us on YouTube and our website, I have to remind us all that we are live and on the air.
So today we have our muses, our mentors, our guides, our reasons that we’re even here today with us on our podcast. For those who’ve been following us, we’ve gone through a rebranding and we tell folks, “All we did was change our name.” We have not changed our DNA, we haven’t changed our purpose. We are Rosa gynecology, but we are born of Peachtree City Obstetrics and Gynecology. And the woman who is responsible for that is with us here today, Dr. Rose Marie Schultz.
Multiple speakers:
Yay!
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Hello there.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And accompanying her, they’re actually in another state, and they were able to get together, is her… I believe it’s her first office manager, but we’ll go through the history in a minute. But Carolyn Weston.
Multiple speakers:
Yay!
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Hey, hey, hey. And Carolyn, you were office manager for how many years? 20?
Carolyn Weston:
Well, I started there on September the fourth of 1985, and of course she started this in 19 84, and I worked there for almost 30 years.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Oh, wow.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Wow. That’s an amazing accomplishment. So I was communicating with Rose a little bit, first of all, when we were even talking about changing the name, and I was, as we’ve talked about before, we’ve had accountants and attorneys and we’ve gone through the different transitions of the practice. And Carolyn was in on some of those conversations earlier on about, “Maybe we should think about changing our name.” And we were like, “No.”
Dr. Karen Greene:
No.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
“We’ll never change the name. Rose gave us this practice and we’ll not ever change our name.” But with just life and things changing and how we’ve evolved as a practice, we went through a long process of going through that. But because all of us are so sentimental and we feel a huge debt of gratitude to Rose Marie Schultz, we really wanted to come up with a way that we could still acknowledge our history and acknowledge our past and honor that, but to still be a bridge for the future, because as we’ve told everyone, we’re not going anywhere. We still got a little more gas left in the tank, so we’re going to try to keep going for a little while longer. But Rose, just tell us what was going on in your mind and how did you come to even land in Peachtree City, Georgia and start this huge wonderful legacy that you have established?
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, first, let me remind you all that gynecology has always been my passion. Obstetrics is lovely. We have all those lovely babies and mothers, and every woman alive knows her brain is different when she’s pregnant and her body is different. But my passion has always been gynecology.
And when I was finishing my residency at the University of Kentucky, I did not know if I wanted to teach or if I wanted to do private practice. And in those days, you could not go from one to another. That was very different. There were quotas on women in medical school. Eight women out of every hundred were allowed to be in medical school. This is Yale, this is Harvard, this is Baylor.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Wow.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Yeah. But not at the University of Kentucky. And so the only way I could punt was to join the Army. Because if I joined the Army, I could do army work and then I could go into either academic medicine or private practice, whatever I wanted to, if I got out of the Army. So that’s where it actually started.
So I went to Europe and the first month I was there, I met this killer Air Force pilot named Schultz.
Dr. Karen Greene:
We know him.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
My maiden name was McDonald, like the hamburgers and everybody could spell it. No one ever misspelled my name, but they misspell Schultz all the time.
So Jerry and I dated very romantically all over Europe. We lived over there a couple of years. We did not live together, and he was coming back to the States. He did special operations in the Air Force, and there are only three bases available to him. And one state-side was in Hurlburt Field, Florida. And we’re not very far from that right now.
Carolyn Weston:
Not very far.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And we’re right on the Gulf of Mexico, which is where it is.
Carolyn Weston:
Right.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And so he was coming back to Hurlburt Field, and I persuaded the Surgeon General of the Army to station me at Fort Benning, Georgia with duty at Air Force Base Hospital.
Dr. Karen Greene:
The fact that Rose says, “I persuaded- “
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I know.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Says a lot.
Dr. Karen Greene:
It says a lot, but that doesn’t surprise me at all.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
It doesn’t surprise me.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, but things change. Medicine especially has changed, and for the most part, all the better. But I’ve got a few things to say at that at the end. You better warn me before we go there.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Hey, your safe space.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
But things change. And if you were the only active duty female obstetrician in the Army, which I was for about eight months in 1979, every general in the Army medical cohort knows who you are.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Okay.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
My kind of personality, they know exactly who you are. So required personal visits and notes on the bottom of recommendations. So as an unmarried woman, I was allowed to shack up with Captain Schultz. And then we got married pretty soon, actually after we moved here. And then he wanted to fly for a major airline. He’d been an Air Force C-130 pilot a long time. But commercial is what he’d always wanted to do his whole entire life, because it was such a stable career field.
Comments on stable?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Things change.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
So he moved to Peachtree City because it was a tremendous opportunity for me. A recruiter called me and talked to me about doing it. I moved to Peachtree City for Jerry to get close to the airport. We did not know we had each moved for the other one til a Super Bowl party a couple months after we’d moved.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Oh, wow.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s great.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And he sat me down one morning and said, “I don’t care what you tell your friends, but the truth is we moved here for you.” And I went, “No, we moved here for you.” So [inaudible 00:07:45]. But it was a recruiter that brought us to Peachtree City. Now in 1983, there were 8,000 people in Peachtree City.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Wow.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Is is [inaudible 00:07:54] now, by the way?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Oh, I looked that up the other day. It’s something crazy. A lot more than that for sure.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
40,000?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yeah, I’m saying 30 or 40.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
40,000. And there was not a physician who lived in Peachtree City who also practiced in Peachtree City. I was the first.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Wow. Amazing.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And we had to incorporate, so the name then was Peachtree City Gynecology. And I loved gynecology. But what happens when you’re a solo doc, and this is very important to the way medicine is gone over the last 40 years. When you’re a solo doc, you go to the movie, I tried to see Kevin Costner in Robin Hood three times in the movie theater and never got to see the whole movie. Somebody would beep, somebody would miscarry, somebody do something. And I had to have partners.
If you remember you, to be board certified in both Obstetrics and Gynecology, which I already was before I started the practice. So as I hired the young daughter of a friend just finishing her residency, she had to moonlight to do obstetrics and do gynecology with me, and it just didn’t work. You have to be equal in a practice, in a partnership. So that didn’t work. So I interviewed and I interviewed and I interviewed. Carolyn remembers we interviewed about 50 physicians.
Carolyn Weston:
A bunch.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Wow, I didn’t know that. Yeah.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
I’ll call myself brilliant on the fact that I only hired women 10 and 20 years younger than myself.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That was brilliant.
Carolyn Weston:
Oh, yeah. Brilliant.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
It didn’t feel brilliant when you left us, but-
Dr. Karen Greene:
We’re doing it now.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, I’m sorry. That’s the deal. The old ones get to go.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yeah, we understand now.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
There was a method to madness, yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
There was always a plot. A long term plan. But it took trial and error to find people who were as passionate about gynecology and obstetrics as I was and wanted to give the quality of care that I did. And it took a long time to find you all and then Dr. Rebecca Banks. Becky-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes, yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And do you all remember when you got there?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I remember when I got here, and we’ve talked about this, how we each came to join the practice, what the circumstances were at the time, and again, to pay honors, well, to Dr. Rebecca Banks, who is physician emeritus here for us. She retired a few years ago and we’re celebrating our 40th anniversary. That’s one of the reasons why we’re having this episode… Excuse me, is that we started out this season talking about the rebranding and how we came with our new name and the fact that the practice is celebrating in this year, 2024, a 40 year history, and just how amazing that is because it was the motto, “Women for Women.”
You started it. You had a standard not only in the clinical practice of medicine that we talk about all the time, but in the business mind of medicine that we have come to appreciate even more and more as the decades have passed. But we will frequently give a Ros-ism. We are.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Friends as friends.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Having conversations with current staff who are babies, because they’ve only been here four or five years or so. And then we’re like, “Well, let me just give you a little Ros-ism on whatever it is.” And so we honor that and we don’t take that for granted because especially in hindsight, looking back, we realize how rare this is.
Dr. Karen Greene:
When you’re doing it just seems normal. But now that we’ve kind of got, I guess a reference point and we can kind of look back, it’s like, “Wow, a lot of people that were here aren’t here anymore. And here we are standing,” and doing the same thing. Like I said, name changed, but the DNA is the same.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
The Rose DNA.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yes, the Rose DNA.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Even when you look at other practices where people don’t stay like, the same docs all throughout the 30, 40 years. The other groups, they split, they divide, whatever term you can use [inaudible 00:12:35].
Dr. Karen Greene:
They do something different.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And we’ve had a few come and go in the early years, but then we got our core group with Dr. Schultz, Dr. Banks. Actually there were four of us. Additionally, Dr. Miller, who is back in the area practicing with another group. So when we formed that core group, really I think the cohesive, the glue, was Rose. Right?
Because we talked about how each of us connected with Rose in that interview process. Rose, I remember we were all talking about… We remember being on the phone with you for hours. And it didn’t feel like hours because it is like you already knew this person, right? It was just like, “Oh my God, this is just… I have to get there.”
The only thing I didn’t do, because I was in Augusta… Well, we all trained in Augusta and I remember having a conversation, we were trying to figure out when I was going to come and interview, and Rose says, “Well, Jerry can come and fly you up.” I’m like, “Oh, no, no, no. I think I love you, but no, I don’t do the small plane. I’ll drive. I’ll be there.”
Thinking about how we all joined and to talk about, and we can get Carolyn’s impression about this too, I think the thing that we have really come to understand is how visionary Rose is. And how the building itself, when you all moved from the initial facility to where we currently inhabit, where we’ve been all these decades, how the design of the building itself has facilitated our longevity. That we have been able to grow into, we’ve been able to expand, we’ve been able to contract when we needed to contract, but we’ve always been right here. This space has functioned for us in a way… Who could have seen down the road 40 years? One of the things in particular Rose, that woman right there.
Dr. Karen Greene:
I know.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Exactly. Mammogram on site. You guys give us some insight about how you came to make that decision and when you came to make that decision.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, first off, it took me two years to persuade Jerry Schultz that we could afford a mammogram machine in two years. So there was a lot of talking done. Well, one of the things, going back just a little bit is you worked all there in the beginning with the computers, but when Carolyn walked in the door, we had a 3M word processor that was to die for. I cried.
Carolyn Weston:
I remember.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
So we started before computers, and one thing I was religious about is patients need to be reminded that they need to get mammograms. You cannot tell a patient to get a mammogram, give her a slip for it, send her out of the building. She’s got to call two or three hospitals, because there’s not a mammogram machine in Peachtree City. We have the first mammogram machine in Peachtree City.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Oh, wow.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
There’s not a hospital in Fayetteville.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Right.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
At the time.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
There is hospitals over in Newnan or you go to Fayetteville or you go downtown Atlanta and patients just weren’t getting it. We hired a computer person because we found a computer. What was that first software program cost? Like $20,000?
Carolyn Weston:
It was a lot. It was a lot.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Oh. We spent fortune on computers and we hired a wonderful woman to sit and input, “We had told this patient to get a mammogram, this patient to get a mammogram, this patient to get a mammogram.” And then what she did is she followed through, and it turns out the two thirds of the patients we recommend getting mammogram did not do it.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Did not. Wow. I could believe that.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Two thirds. So we improved our program, but finally I persuaded Jerry, “Jerry, we just have to do this.” And we got one of the local radiologist to read. She’d read them for a really decent rate. And so we fought. I fought. I fought my husband. I don’t think I fought Caroline at all.
Carolyn Weston:
Not much.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And then in the early days, I don’t know if you know that, that mammogram room is lead lined. [inaudible 00:16:59] through the wall.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I do remember you saying… To have to get that done right. We don’t need it now, but at that time, we had to do that because of the technology, or you had to do that because of technology.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Sure, [inaudible 00:17:11]. Okay. And then how about the ultrasound machine?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That part too.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
We had the first ultrasound machine in Peachtree City at that time.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
On site. That’s right.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Unless you went to Fayetteville.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s right.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And that was because… See, ultrasound just came about really when I was in residency. I finished my residency in 1978 at the University of Kentucky. We had just started to use ultrasound in obstetrics, and then we found it for GYN. And it’s marvelous to see the ovary, to see the uterus, to see what’s happening, to see if this pregnancy is going to be viable or if it’s [inaudible 00:17:48]. And this was wonderful. So I wanted one of those so badly.
The reason for hiring doctors 10 to 20 years younger than myself is you were trained in ultrasound. I wasn’t trained in ultrasound, but I loved it. So I’d go to the conferences and then I would hire a technician that I could train because I had to work and see the patients. But she could train and get very, very, very good at ultrasound.
Dr. Karen Greene:
It’s interesting you said when you would give them a slip to get a mammogram, there wasn’t a place to go.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
No.
Dr. Karen Greene:
But now the same process is we give them a slip to give them, get a mammogram somewhere else, and they walk out to the car and all these other things interfere with their brain.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Life happens.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And life happens and they just forget. So for us, it was like, this is something we have to keep because women are so busy that they always end up doing so many other things, that all of a sudden they come back the next year and they go, “I’m sorry, Dr. Greene, but I didn’t get that mammogram.” And we don’t hear it as often, and it’s not one third of the patients, but we still hear it. Patients that we give orders for, they just never get around to it because they’ve got too many other things to do. And I think we stress to them that whole “Woman for Women, Women with Women, Women… ” You knew back then that the future was women. So we have continued that.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
[inaudible 00:19:04]. So yes, absolutely. And the other part of this, Rose, again, what you just shared is an example of you have the clinical issue and concern because we want to do the right thing for our patients, and we want to make it easy for our patients to be able to do the right thing for their own care. That’s not cheap, and it’s not easy, depending on the technology. So there has to be investment by the business owner, the visionary, to say, “You know what? This is going to cost us some money, but this is the right thing to do.” And then it became something that added in terms of the business structure and the revenue structure. And we have continued that because we were just like, because there’s been times, especially when it got a little lean, when everything was crashing, the housing market, and Carolyn, you were there. Carolyn was there.
Carolyn Weston:
Yes.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Holding our hands and calming me down. I’ll never forget, poor Carolyn, I had to come into the office, your office for something, and you had to tell me that. I think we were behind in some bills or I forget. I don’t know what was going on. Cash flow was a hot mess. And I was sitting in there and I was just like, “Oh my God, we let Rose down.”
Carolyn Weston:
I remember that well.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And Carolyn says, “Now, Dr. Williams, it is going to be okay,” and blah, blah, blah. And then we just had to… She calmed me down and we had to just come with our game plan and we just had to work through it. But there were many times when we could have said, “You know what? We’re going to chuck this. We can’t afford this anymore. We can’t afford the staff. We can’t afford the materials,” at that time, because it was old film, X-Ray film, reading it up on a box and all that other kind of stuff.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
But going back to what you were saying, this is where I give Carolyn the kudos because even with all that, we’re seeing patients where… That’s the job that we do, but Carolyn just managed everything.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
The Rock.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Just beautifully. I mean-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
The Rock of Gibraltar.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
… Whatever she had to do, put one bill over here.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s it.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
And she just said that, “This is what we’re going to do,” and we’d be like, “Yes. Do it!”
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s it. “Okay, Carolyn.”
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
For an each check on the refrigerator.
Multiple speakers:
Yes!
Carolyn Weston:
That’s right. [inaudible 00:21:23] for a couple weeks.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes, yes.
Carolyn Weston:
Yes, indeed.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Yes, that’s right.
Carolyn Weston:
Thank you.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
That’s where I back.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Like you said, you hire people that are younger. So here we are, especially me coming out recently in residency, and I was like… I remember my eyes were this big when you were telling me these things. I was like, “Okay, this is what we’re going to do. It sounds good,” because it was scary.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s right, because you were young. You were the newbie-ish one. That’s right.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yeah, right. That whole process was just kind of scary. It’s just when you’re managing a business, it’s kind of scary sometimes. And you need that rock, that person to say, “This is how we’re going to handle this.”
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Another thing I appreciate is that Carolyn didn’t tell us every single thing to make us worry because we would not able…
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
[inaudible 00:22:03].
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
We would not be able to function. I remember at the meetings we would have, and she’d go, “Well, something is going wrong, but you all don’t need to know about that. It’s going to be handled.”
Dr. Mironda Williams:
“I got this.” Yeah. And we were like, “Okay.”
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
And we would just go, “Okay.” Because if we knew everything-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
It wouldn’t be good.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
… It would not be a good thing.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
To your point, Dr. Guthrie-
Carolyn Weston:
That’s called holding your cards. Holding your cards close to your chest.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Holding your cards close to your chest. Yes. Because to-
Carolyn Weston:
[inaudible 00:22:25].
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes. To Dr. Guthrie’s point, once these wonderful ladies left us and-
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
We had to see everything.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
… And we saw, we’re like,” What the… ” It was like, “How did Carolyn do this?”
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
It takes all three of us.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
It takes… And some.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
An some to do what Carolyn did by herself.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
How? I don’t know. But one of the things I think that Dr. Schultz was so good at is team building.
Carolyn Weston:
100%.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
You were just so good at getting the right person to fill whatever the role is.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Yes, I was. That’s right.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Which set us up the youngsters for success. Because you found the Carolyn and then you helped to train and mentor and coach the Carolyn, so that Carolyn could do all the Carolyn things while you were doing the patient things. And then as you grew, as the practice grew, Dr. Schultz, and you started bringing us on, we had to bring all this other staff on. We started growing. At one point, we had seven… I don’t… I can’t remember how many employees we had. 40 something? How many did we have?
Carolyn Weston:
43.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Our high was 43… Yes. Our high was about 43.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
So we can’t manage staff. So in addition to doing all the financial stuff that Carolyn was doing, she was managing an office full of women.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Women. I’ll say it again. An office full of women only.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Wait, you guys stop that right there. What were you talking about? Men and women, okay. Remember I was in the Army. You remember that? Okay. Men and women have different management styles. Some men have more softer skills. Most of them don’t.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Right.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Some women have very authoritarian, micromanaging skills. Some of us don’t. But never degrade women. I found it, after having worked in the Army, the reason I started a private practice was not to keep men out of the practice. I seriously considered hiring some gynecologists. They just wanted to do old fashioned gynecology and not change.
I’m sorry, [inaudible 00:24:44] doctors I interviewed were women, so don’t you dare degrade women in my office.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I’m sorry.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We’re sorry.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Yes, you should be ashamed.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Ashamed of myself.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Let’s talk about a couple more things. I’ve got some questions for you all.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Oh, oh, I knew she was going to do this.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
All right, now, I don’t know if you remember, but we used to have televisions that had videotapes in the back room. And if we had a patient who was scheduled, for example, a hysterectomy-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
… One of the staff would take her to the back room… By the way, Carolyn’s son Brad attached all those wires to the walls so we could do the VCRs and the television and stuff.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yeah, we had a tag team.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And you all remember Diana Weston and she worked [inaudible 00:25:34] too. So there was a family affair for the Westons.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Absolutely. Absolutely, a family affair.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
But we would take a patient back and sit her in front of a VHS tape and show her how the hysterectomy was done, what she could expect, what she couldn’t expect. We ere really, really, really good. Remember we had carbonless paper and we’d write out instructions for them.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Keep a copy in the chart.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
We’d put a copy in the chart so we’d remember what we told them.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Exactly.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
If you told someone to use [inaudible 00:26:03] acid or whatever, you needed to remember that. We worked very, very, very hard to educate our patients, being fully aware of the fact that most patients remember exactly 20% of what their doctor tells them.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes. But that’s why we wrote it down.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Okay, so what are you doing nowadays?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We are continuing that tradition, and I think that’s one of the things that we pride ourselves on is the patient education piece. Because that’s what you taught us, right? You taught us that it pays dividends because the post-op period or the postpartum period, if you’ve gone through these things and explained things to patients in a way and given them something in their hand that they can take with them so that when they forget what we just said, they can go back and review that.
I’ll never forget the first time I was learning how to pre-op a patient and you had created the pre-op folder, and in the pre-op folder were all these pre-op instructions, post-op instructions. Da-da-da and da-da-da. We still do that.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
And we’re of… We’re one of the few practices that do that.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Good.
Carolyn Weston:
Good.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
They still talk about that. Deanna, you can tell them at the hospital.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
So at the hospital, we’re one of the few practices that still do that and have a cohesive pre-op process, meaning-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Pre-op and post-op.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Pre-op and post-op. But even there’s hardly ever a missing H&P or orders or instructions. They know to ask the patient that if they’re missing something, they’ll go, “Did Dr. Guthrie or did Dr. Green give you a piece- ” “Yes, here it is in my hand.”
Dr. Mironda Williams:
“Yes, here it is in my folder.”
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
“It’s right there.” And to this day, to your credit, Rose, we’re still doing that.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We’re still doing that.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
We have our [inaudible 00:27:46]. Yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Love it.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Now the information in it has evolved as we tell folks all the time-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Good. Well, of course. [inaudible 00:27:52].
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes, the way we did hysterectomies when we came with you, started with you, and you were one of the first laparoscopic surgeons and minimally invasive surgeons that created and broke barriers at the hospital. I would like to say that we continue to do that. We break barriers.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Yay!
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We’re on robots. We’re doing all the things. But we have continued to keep patient education as a premier aspect of this practice, even if the format changes. So there’s maybe some video. We have video monitors everywhere now. We’re doing all kinds of things, high tech in the office. But nothing beats giving a patient something in their hand that they can refer back to, to say, “What did she say again? What time am I supposed to show up? When do I stop eating?” All those things. So we have continued that patient education, especially that’s around surgery and pre-op and surgical patients.
Dr. Karen Greene:
One of the things, because when we stopped doing obstetrics and we’re just solely doing gynecology, it actually allowed us to spend more time talking to the patients about those things, because gynecology has evolved so much. I had a patient this morning and I spent… She’s a new patient, so I spent a long time just talking about hormone replacement, because hormone replacement, even when I started versus now, has evolved. So I gave her the whole gamut of everything and she said, “I really appreciate you spending that much time with me to talk about this. Now I get it,” because she had done her own research, but she still was a little confused and she needed someone to talk to her.
And I think that that basis was started by you to communicate with the patient. Even when you were talking to us on the phone, coming to the practice, we knew that you talked, you explained, you made things clear, you answered questions. And patients appreciate that. We appreciated that. Because anything we wanted, any question we had, we knew we could ask from the very beginning. That was never a question.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Communication was always open.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Communication was always open.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, I’m proud of you and let’s talk about your patients when they’re not at the gynecologist office, because we wanted to teach all the time. In the early days in medicine, when I first started doing medicine, which was the early seventies, doctors told patients what to do, did not give them options. That was patriarchal.
Nowadays, patients have options, but what I’ve found is… Right now in the current climate, I think there’s a change in medicine and it’s got to do with medical training. It’s got to do with the fact that there are not enough doctors to sit down and seriously talk for 30, 40 minutes with the patient about her hormone options, what’s best for her because it’s best for her patient history.
So I think one of the things I’d encourage you to keep on working on is as you educate your patients, educate them how to deal with other physicians in other specialties also. Like urgent care. One of my cousins in my family just recently went into urgent care. She went into urgent care. Turns out she has acute mono and her spleen is gigantic enlarged. But the urgent care doctor listened to her heart through her sweatshirt and her shirt.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I’m surprised she even listened actually sometimes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Actually, that’s very true and that’s even true on my own exams, which believe me, I help my doctors do what I did. So I wish it we could teach every [inaudible 00:31:31] patient how you do that. And one thing they’ve got to do is stay educated enough on what’s happening to them and then ask for what they need.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Because if you don’t ask, you don’t get it. You may not get it.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
I don’t know if you’ve continued to encourage your patients when they come in for their yearly exam. Ask them to come in with some questions written down, written on notes, on their phone, written down on an index card or their shopping list, so that they know what they need to know what they need to ask.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And we definitely have done that. Again, like I said, you trained as well, Rose. And that was actually one of the reasons we did this podcast. When we started the podcast, it was right when pandemic hit and everything shut down, including us. So we were sitting here going, “What do we do now?” So I said, oh, let’s do a podcast and then we could continue to engage with patients. Because one of the things that we all have a passion for, and I think it grew out of how we watched and observed you Rose, not just how you very directly and intentionally gave us a lot of your wisdom. Just you navigate the world, navigating running a practice, being married, advocating for patients, staying on the cutting edge of what technology was available to you, making the hard decisions. We can talk about that. In graceful ways we were able to just really learn so much just by observing you and the whole concept of patient empowerment.
Because we tell our patients all the time. They say, “What should I do?” I say, “Well, we can talk about what your options are. We can talk about what things you want to consider, but this is your decision to make based on what’s best for you, your family, your circumstances. We are here to help facilitate. If you don’t understand what we’re saying, then I haven’t done my job.” We don’t blame patients and say, “Well, they didn’t understand me.” No, then that means I need to find another way of saying it so that you understand what’s going on.
And that’s a great point. We’ll have to do more of just saying, “You know what, and if you go to another doctor’s office and you don’t feel like you have been seen or heard or you understand, ask the questions.”
Dr. Karen Greene:
“Ask the questions.”
Dr. Mironda Williams:
“Or find somewhere else to go.” Dr. Greene, tell them-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Or-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes?
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
… Hire a patient advocate, which is now becoming a business.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s true.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Patient advocate.
Carolyn Weston:
Really?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That is true. That is true.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yeah, because when you’re seeing a physician-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
I don’t know how long we have, but I’ve got another question for you.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We got time.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Okay. One of the most common complaints I hear about doctors is they’re always looking at the computer screen and not at the patient.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Now you know how your computer screens are set up, right? Do you have that problem?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I don’t think so, because of how you designed the office.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Exactly.
Carolyn Weston:
Back to you. Back to you.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Exactly. That has a lot to do with it.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
When we finally moved from paper charts to a computer screen, which took a lot, but because of the way the office was designed, the computer may be sitting wherever the computer is sitting in the exam room or in the outside areas. But when we’re interacting with our patient to have the physical exam, we’re just interacting with the patient, because I’ve been in exam rooms with other physicians where the computer, they’re examining me and they bring this thing down and I’m just like, “Wait, I’m over here.”
But again, because of the way the office is designed, I think we’re very intentional about that. But it’s the physical space kind of facilitates us. You’re on the computer, we need to be on the computer, and you’re talking to the patient and examining the patient when you need to talk to the patient.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And when patients come in, they see that. They go, “Oh, it’s like a separate area.” It’s like we want you to have your space so we can actually have a conversation and then come back over here and get on the computer and put whatever information you need, like medicines or whatever. And it does come from the fact that we were on paper charts, and so we were very used to writing things down and talking. So now it’s like you still have to talk.
I think that what a lot of us have learned is that communication with eye contact and all of that makes a big difference-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
[inaudible 00:35:56].
Dr. Karen Greene:
… Especially on a patient in this particular situation where they’re half-dressed, we’re doing an exam, they’re hoping everything’s okay. And so if you’re not actually looking at them, it doesn’t make them feel comfortable.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I had a patient say that she had never sat down and talked to a physician first and then had her exam. She says, “I don’t even know what… ” She goes, “I just want to thank you for that because I feel that you’re listening to me.”
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Or talking to them with their clothes on.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Right, exactly.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Before you start.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
That’s a good one. So do you want to know how we got that particular kind of exam desk with privacy for dressing and undressing?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
No, Rose. Tell us how we did that.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yes, tell us.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
“Come on. Tell us. Tell us.” Okay. So remember I was an army doc, right? Active duty army women, and I’m so glad you all don’t remember this, but they used to not put zippers on female army uniforms. We had buttons. So you had to unbutton your pants, then you had to lace up and down your boots. It takes an army active duty person, and actually any military person, it takes them approximately 10 minutes to get ready for an examination to get undressed or dressed afterwards. So yes, I do not like talking to patients, especially the ones I’ve just met, anybody while she’s undressed because she’s not thinking well.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Right. She’s self-conscious.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Tell us about the design of the chair. I remember you told a story about the reason you got the chairs. We love our chairs. We baby our chairs.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We baby these chairs.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Oh, yes. I hope you [inaudible 00:37:38].
Dr. Karen Greene:
But there was a reason you got the chairs.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We still have a few of them.
Dr. Karen Greene:
It was because of an experience you had with one of the old tables, in terms of a patient sliding off of it. And so you got chairs because of that. At least that’s the story you told me, and I remember that.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Yes. And patients with cerebral palsy, patients who’ve just had knee surgery or double knee surgery, there is time… And some of us have got terrible contractures, cannot maintain a position for a good GYN exam. And it takes all the effort out of holding yourself up. And so if you have a private space where a patient could dress and undress, but you keep on talking to her, so you could use that time very well…
You’re not trying to multitask. Most physicians when I trained, they would see two patients at once, just like the dentist sees three or four, where you talk to a patient in your office first. If you’ve just met her for the first time, then she walks down and undresses, you talk to another patient and then you go back. Not one of us is as good at multitasking as [inaudible 00:38:46]-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
As you think you are.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Oh no.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Exactly.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
So if you like to concentrate on your patient, one patient, it’s good. And actually it’s good to finish the chart while you’re sitting right there with her too.
Carolyn Weston:
Sure. It’s fresh.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I have to-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
I’ve worked with gynecologists who finished their charts a month or two later. Well, I’m here to tell you, they are not the detail that is in your charts.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
No, not at all.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
So actually that is a design that was taken from a very fine doctor GP in Opp, Alabama. I was active duty at Eglin. I used to moonlight at Opp and he took me into his office and he had figured this out in the 1940s.
Multiple speakers:
Wow.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
He built a wall like we had. He had a desk. He talked to his patient the whole time. He never went on her side until she was ready for him. And of course his nurse… He was he, but his nurse was always flitting in and out, and it was private, it was safe, it was comfortable, and he learned a whole lot more. So it’s the design of a Dr. [inaudible 00:39:45] from Opp, Alabama.
Multiple speakers:
Wow.
Carolyn Weston:
My word. I hadn’t heard that.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
I know. That’s new. That’s good.
Dr. Karen Greene:
We kept that design in Newnan.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Exactly. Well, we’ve been everywhere, all over Georgia as we’ve delivered babies everywhere. But to your point, Dr. Greene, whatever other satellite or accessory office that we ever had, we always tried to replicate that design. Because we were like, “Well, if it ain’t broke, why are we going to fix it?” So in our Newnan office, and we built that off… We’ve been there 10 now years?
Dr. Karen Greene:
2013.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
10, 11. Yeah.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We’ve been there 10 years now. But when we built out that space, we said, “We’re going to do what we have in Peachtree City office. We’re going to do it in the Newnan office.” So we’ve got the little U design, we’ve got the little center core, we’ve got everything just like you designed, because we’re like, “Hey, this works. It’s efficient.” The exam rooms, we’ve got that same partition. I mean, it looks just like the exam room in Peachtree City for that reason, because it’s functional.
One of-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And you don’t have your back to the patient while you’re on the computer.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Exactly. You can keep that face and eye contact, which is so important just to build that rapport with your patient. Someone who was unable to join us today, Sherry [inaudible 00:41:05], followed along in terms of team building, in terms of getting the right people at the right place in the right position and growing your own. I think that’s the other thing, Rose, that you’ve done so well that we’ve tried to continue is that as you’ve brought in staff to the practice and as the practice grew and evolved and new techniques or new… What’s the word I’m looking for? Abilities were needed. You didn’t always look outside the practice. You said, “Well, let’s see who’s here and who can perhaps move into another role and grow in that role because they already know kind of the ethos and the DNA of the practice.”
Sherry [inaudible 00:41:55] is a perfect example of an individual in that way. Carolyn, can you speak to that a little bit more about how Sherry came in doing one thing and then transitioned and when you were ready to finally leave us, but we were in good hands because of all of the coaching that we’d had with Sherry.
Carolyn Weston:
Yes. Sherry, when I interviewed her, I had known her previously through our kids, through band. I knew her. She came in and was going through some personal things in her life. We had a wonderful interview. But I did not hire Sherry because I knew her before. I knew her from her commitment to her family. I knew her commitment to talking to me about things in the office, about what was going on with her own life, and how she wanted to move forward with her life. And just from that interview and that positive interview, I knew she was somebody that needed to be a part of Peachtree City Obstetrics and Gynecology. And she was awesome.
After we were there for a while, I started looking because I knew down the road I was going to retire. And so I knew down the road that she was the one, and she has been everything I ever thought she would be. Kudos to you, Miss. Sherry [inaudible 00:43:18]. I’m sorry… I hate that you couldn’t be with us today.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes.
Carolyn Weston:
But we love you and so glad you’re doing better.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes, yes. And so when Carolyn retired, Sherry then became office manager and continued in that role for, I don’t know, 15 some plus years and still is… As with Carolyn, we never let people go completely. So Carolyn would come through the office and continue to help make sure we didn’t destroy everything, Rose. And so Sherry is still on board and still comes in and is still able to help us as we continue to try to go on with this legacy.
As we said when we talked about changing the practice name, people at the hospital with patients like, “Are y’all leaving? Are y’all selling?” I was like, “No, we’ve done that.” That didn’t work out too well.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And then we bought it back.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We bought ourselves back, but we feel so dedicated to continuing what you both have started and to grow it and to evolve it even more so, which is why we changed our name to Rosa Gynecology, A, as an homage to our own Rose. We have roses on the table. I got roses on my sneakers.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Thank you.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
So we love our Rose and so Rosa Gynecology is our way to honor and respect. We know where we come from. We know why we’re here.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Absolutely.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We know why we’ve been successful and continue to be successful because of everything that these ladies who are with us today taught us. We came out of residency knowing how to do OBGYN-
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
That’s it.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
But that’s about it.
Dr. Karen Greene:
That’s about it.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
So we didn’t know.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Bills, appointment schedules, computers. What.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Bills, appointment schedules, computers…
Dr. Karen Greene:
All of that.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
What the other-
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Mammogram machines, all that stuff.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Insurance.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Insurance.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Insurance, oh yes.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Hospital boards. Hospital committees, hospital protocols.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
If you all think you’re wrapping up yet, you’re not done, I’ll have [inaudible 00:45:31].
Well, one of the things that you did not know when you came out of your residencies was that there has always been a stigma about women employees, women bosses, and do we ever prove that one false.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Absolutely.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s true. Absolutely.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Most women, I won’t say this… And this may be true for younger men. It certainly wasn’t true for the men of my age, but we like working with people we like. We like working with people we trust. We like working with people who will help us through our births and our deaths and our divorces and our remarriages and our happiness and the highs and lows of 40 years of friendship.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yes.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes. That’s true. That’s it.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And that is the strength of this practice. It’s all of us together. Not the docs, not the nurse practitioners, not the providers, not the nurses.
Carolyn Weston:
We’re a team.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
It’s a gigantic team.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Many of the men I know, they could work forever with partners they hated.
Carolyn Weston:
But they didn’t know.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
But they didn’t know.
Carolyn Weston:
Never get to know.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Well, and you’ve walked in offices like that where you’ve walked in an office… It may be a physician’s office or it could be a business, and you can feel the vibes emanating from everyone you deal with.
Carolyn Weston:
[inaudible 00:46:57] way.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
“This is a good place to work. They are a happy group of people.”
Dr. Karen Greene:
And that’s what our patients say. They’ll come in and say, “This was such a nice visit from the beginning to the… Visit.” And people don’t really look forward to the GYN exam, but-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Really?
Carolyn Weston:
Really?
Dr. Karen Greene:
… I do believe we make it a happy space that when they come in, the people who greet them are pleasant. They come back. The person who takes their blood pressure, who weighs them, we’re respectful, they’re pleasant, and they have a conversation. They get their boobs squeezed and then they head out and everything is a pleasant experience.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
They get their boobs squeezed in a clinical way.
Dr. Karen Greene:
In a clinical way.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Just wanted to make sure we just…
Dr. Karen Greene:
In a clinical way. In a clinical way.
And many patients will say that when they first come to our office, that it was a really good experience. And that just means so much to us to hear that. And I just need you to know that that’s what we do, because that’s what you did. And so we do continue that. That it’s a safe space for women.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
For women. And I think the point, because Rose and Carolyn were talking before we came on air, about that very thing, is that we genuinely, I think, care about each other in terms of the staff and the physicians. We don’t always like each other, but that’s what family is, right? But we care about the individual. We care about their well-being as people, not just as someone coming in to do a job. And I think that that is palpable by patients. We have people coming in here all the time, vendors for various things. They’re like, “We just like this office.” They’re just like, “We- “
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
They come and hang out. We’ll see a rep who’s been in the office for two… I’ve seen 45 minutes worth of patients, and the rep is just still there, just sitting there talking.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Doing whatever, doing their paperwork on that, because the atmosphere-
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Is important.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
… Communicates that.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yeah.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And you can’t manufacture that.
Dr. Karen Greene:
No.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And because we know of lots of practices where there are lots of people, there are just people in a building. They’re just people in a building doing what they do. But it’s not a team. There’s not the genuine care for the individual. And so as you all know, and when you’re managing people or you have a huge business where there’s more than just you, there are always going to be ups and downs and struggles and challenges in the office, outside of the office. But if there’s not that genuine care for the person as a person, then things can kind of go left and be very toxic.
To your point, Rose, that’s one of the reasons why when we stopped obstetrics, when we decided to stop obstetrics, we tell people it wasn’t a financial decision or business decision. It turned out to be a good business decision, especially when Covid hit, but it was really quality of life decision.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Harmony of life.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Harmony of life.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Remember, we were supposed to change it.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Harmony of life. But because we understand the pressures that we all have to deal with coming in and in and out of this office, and we have to recognize that and not try to push through it and act like it’s not happening. It’s also why we went to a four-day work week, because we had staff who had different days. Everybody always had a day off here, a day off there. And we were like, “Wait, wait, wait. Why don’t we just all take Friday off?”
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Take the day off.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
And then that way we can just be here. We can be very good at what we do. And I think that all helps create that atmosphere, that atmosphere of cohesion, that atmosphere of care and concern for ourselves as people who work here in addition to our patients.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And not just the way you feel Mironda when everyone in the office can thrive.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That’s a good word. That’s a good word.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Intellectually, physicians learn more, they do more techniques, they go to robots. Do you all remember? I performed the first laparoscopic hysterectomy at Piedmont Hospital downtown?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Yes.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
And now, Karen, look at what you do. And if you move around for practice to practice, if you don’t like the people you’re working with, you have… it’s very difficult to keep academically, intellectually, really interested in gynecology. And there’s a lot of cutting-edge stuff in gynecology right now. There always will be. It gives me goosebumps to think about 10 and 20 years from now. But if you can thrive and change as a physician and become better, more empowered, all your patients and your staff thrive too. So it’s a mutual, beneficial, symbiotic-
Carolyn Weston:
Absolutely.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
… Relationship. It requires everyone to really like what they’re doing, and it’s so easy to get burned out now.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Well, I think we’re winding down for this episode of Take Good Care podcast. We want to thank our audience for being here. We want to thank these lovely ladies for laying the foundation and doing the hard work decades ago, when this was not easy to do. It’s not easy now. It was nowhere near easy then, when you had to be the first of everything, Rose. So we appreciate you. We appreciate your trust in us. We appreciate your investment in us, so that we could thrive, so that we can continue to thrive, and the practice and the business that you built continues to thrive.
And everyone that comes in here, that’s a part of our mission and vision statement. Everyone that is connected to this business will then thrive and be empowered, whether you work here, whether you’re a patient here, whether you just come bring lunch here as a rep. We want you to feel empowered and that you can thrive. And that’s because of what you ladies started. So we thank you.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
And thank you, Carolyn, for taking care of us. For being here.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yes. Thank you.
Carolyn Weston:
And I want to do this, since you all we’re not all together. I want to give this lady right here a huge hug from all of us for what she started 40 years ago.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Yes.
Dr. Karen Greene:
Yes.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Absolutely. Thank you.
Multiple speakers:
Yay.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Oh. [inaudible 00:53:28].
Carolyn Weston:
[inaudible 00:53:32].
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so for what are your next podcasts?
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We do podcasts, what? Every…
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
About every two weeks.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Every couple of weeks.
Dr. Karen Greene:
[inaudible 00:53:39].
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
About every two weeks.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
We’re probably to take a little hiatus off. Audience, we’re going to take just a very brief hiatus, and then we’ll resume back with season six, and you can find us wherever you get your podcasts. You can also check our website at RosaGynecology.com, our YouTube channel, all of the social media sites.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
There we go.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
The party is going to continue, the celebration is going to continue. We’ve got 40 years to celebrate, and these lovely ladies are going to be joining us a little later in the year when we have that grand party and we just cannot wait until we’re all in the same space.
Multiple speakers:
Yay!
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Love you all.
Multiple speakers:
Love you.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
It’s been wonderful.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Thank you.
Dr. Rose Marie Schultz:
Thank you for coming to work for us. [inaudible 00:54:17].
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
Thank you for hiring me. Thank you.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
Absolutely. Thank you all for watching this episode of Take Good Care podcast. I’m Dr. Mironda Williams.
Dr. Deanna Guthrie:
I’m Dr. Deanna Guthrie.
Dr. Karen Greene:
And I’m Dr. Karen Greene.
Multiple speakers:
Take good care. Yay.
Dr. Mironda Williams:
That was so good.